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**NYTimes** · 2013-09-04, 13:37

The End of an Era in Mobile

The introduction of the Apple iPhone was the first blow to Nokia. Then it failed to respond quickly with a comparable product. And so began a long slide from which it has been unable to recover.

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/03...in-mobile/

**GizBeat** · 2013-09-04, 17:24

All they needed to do was adopt Android. Both BlackBerry and Nokia would have done fine, if not spectacular had they developed lines of Android phones.

**Maine_Coon11** · 2013-09-04, 23:49

(2013-09-04, 17:24)Gizbeat Wrote: All they needed to do was adopt Android. Both BlackBerry and Nokia would have done fine, if not spectacular had they developed lines of Android phones.

Agree.

But they had chosen their own destiny..

WuddaWaste · 2013-09-05, 07:03

As an avid Blackberry user for years, I can see why they tried sticking to their guns. Their OS was ultra stable, fantastic with power management, and fast as can be. Compared to the pre-gingerbread era Android phones, the Blackberry was a solid competitor. With that proprietary platform and what they thought was an unshatterable user base, they got too comfortable and ultimately found themselves way, way behind the curve.

**GizBeat** · 2013-09-06, 08:31

Yes. I understand their desire to stick with it and not alienate the existing user base. I think what would have worked would be developing a separate line of Android phones. BlackBerry or Nokia branding with Android OS? Awesome. Way cooler than Samsung.

**Maine_Coon11** · 2013-09-06, 09:01

(2013-09-06, 08:31)Gizbeat Wrote: Yes. I understand their desire to stick with it and not alienate the existing user base. I think what would have worked would be developing a separate line of Android phones. BlackBerry or Nokia branding with Android OS? Awesome. Way cooler than Samsung.

Speaking of which, I've heard Sammy is developing its own OS, as an alternative to Android. Good luck to them.

**GizBeat** · 2013-09-06, 11:11

(2013-09-06, 09:01)Maine_Coon11 Wrote:
(2013-09-06, 08:31)Gizbeat Wrote: Yes. I understand their desire to stick with it and not alienate the existing user base. I think what would have worked would be developing a separate line of Android phones. BlackBerry or Nokia branding with Android OS? Awesome. Way cooler than Samsung.

Speaking of which, I've heard Sammy is developing its own OS, as an alternative to Android. Good luck to them.

This is the way to do it. Develop a separate line while maintaining what's currently keeping you popular.

Nokia and BlackBerry would be gods right now if they'd followed this simple plan. I still think they have time. Their name is synonymous with quality and still a hugely known brand. I guess too late for Nokia since they lay with MS now.

**Maine_Coon11** · (This post was last modified: 2013-09-06, 12:27 by Maine_Coon11.)

(2013-09-06, 11:11)Gizbeat Wrote:
(2013-09-06, 09:01)Maine_Coon11 Wrote:
(2013-09-06, 08:31)Gizbeat Wrote: Yes. I understand their desire to stick with it and not alienate the existing user base. I think what would have worked would be developing a separate line of Android phones. BlackBerry or Nokia branding with Android OS? Awesome. Way cooler than Samsung.

Speaking of which, I've heard Sammy is developing its own OS, as an alternative to Android. Good luck to them.

This is the way to do it. Develop a separate line while maintaining what's currently keeping you popular.

Nokia and BlackBerry would be gods right now if they'd followed this simple plan. I still think they have time. Their name is synonymous with quality and still a hugely known brand. I guess too late for Nokia since they lay with MS now.

I have bought Nokia 521 out of curiosity to have a feel what Windows Phone 8 is like.

Hated it, sold it promptly. Definitely sucks. IMO of course

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