(2016-03-01, 16:33)861efdee Wrote: [ -> ]Exactly feels like a harmless air pocket but im not too sure. Could be some harmful gases as well.
It is not an air pocket. Never ever puncture batteries as this is extremely dangerous. Keep it away from heat.
This is an issue for the manufacturer or replace it (if anyone can find a suitable replacement).
I know it sucks, but do not make things worse for yourself or your device.
Man, it's a huge bummer to hear this is happening, let alone common.
My supervisor's Samsung Note 4 had this problem too, but fortunately his battery was readily available and cheap/easy to replace.
If you don't mind me asking, what were your guys's charging habits like? And what ROM were you running?
It's a long shot (and probably a bad idea, and a giant pain in the butt), but is it possible to jumper the internal battery contacts to the external battery? Cover the contacts for the external battery to go to the phone, jumper the external battery contacts to where the internal battery would have connected?
I'm sorry, guys. It sucks that this is happening.
Hi Wudda, yes this is really disappointing. The concept of the phone is great, that's why i bought one for my wife also. So, my typical pattern of charging was to run Down the external battery in a day, then put it on charge at night. Usually the internal battery was near full or full when doing this. We are on stock rom.
I have also had the nuisance reboots and complete shutdowns, especially lately when both batts are low. Camera crashes, and chrome goes black all the time, so had to remove it. General slow multitasking and lag has also been an issue. This is my first try with a non name brand phone, and has given way more problems than the Samsung and Motorolas I've had. I really wanted them to get it right, but now i dont have much faith in that. The phone dialer is also sometimes non responsive... Fortunately a reboot usually brings it back.
I really need a fast and reliable dual sim with great battery and camera and water/dust resist as bonus. Will this be the year it comes out?
(2016-03-04, 03:41)WuddaWaste Wrote: [ -> ]Man, it's a huge bummer to hear this is happening, let alone common.
My supervisor's Samsung Note 4 had this problem too, but fortunately his battery was readily available and cheap/easy to replace.
If you don't mind me asking, what were your guys's charging habits like? And what ROM were you running?
It's a long shot (and probably a bad idea, and a giant pain in the butt), but is it possible to jumper the internal battery contacts to the external battery? Cover the contacts for the external battery to go to the phone, jumper the external battery contacts to where the internal battery would have connected?
I'm sorry, guys. It sucks that this is happening.
I have to say @WuddaWaste, my thoughts exactly.
Now, before I write what I would hypothetically do with this device, let me state for the record that it is a really bad idea and should be done by no one at any time for any reason. Ever.
With that out of the way:
1st: Attempt contact with vendor until resolution.
2nd: Attempt contact with manuf. until resolution.
3rd: Spam every single seller on here and AliExpress to attempt and source an internal battery for purchase. This is probably your best option to fix the problem, assuming that it is not a charging circuit issue that would simply reoccur (which from the sounds of it, could very well be the case).
Upon failure of 1, 2, and 3,
4th:
Surgery, but only do if you have a temporary driver, you don't care about the warranty (1, 2, 3above) , and don't care if you permanently destroy the device.
Take your phone apart.
Remove internal battery.
Connect external battery to internal leads by any means necessary.
This may entail removing the leads from your current internal battery to attach to the "external" battery and maybe even extending them. If you are willing to do something against all recommendations by myself and everyone on this website, please do it safely. Safety glasses, safety gloves, long sleeve shirt, behind a barrier, etc. Remember, this is a bad idea and should be attempted by no one at any time for any reason.
Test device with "external" battery attached "internally". Attempt boot, reboot, recharge, multiple power disconnect and reconnects, etc.
If this rig works, permanently attach "external" battery "internally".
Put your phone back together and call it a day.
If you really want to go for it, you can source out a battery for another device. Get exact measurements for the other device battery and your internal battery, and attempt a fit. Remember that you will have to rig it as above.
The d6000 should be a 3.85v battery. The Samsung Galaxy Alpha, S5, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 , Note 4, s6, and many others are all 3.8v batteries. The Alpha (or other small batteries) is probably your best bet. Use AliExpress, mail sellers, get as much information as you can from there and other websites re: exact measurements. Compare to the removed d6000 internal battery measurements in your hand. For example, the AMIGOO MG100 on BangGood is the exact same specs as your internal battery - but of course, it is impossible to know if it will fit without knowing exact measurements, where the contacts are, etc.
Many of these devices also have extended cases / batteries / etc. which could be rigged - but all of this of course is up to your hypothetical attempt which is strongly discouraged...
Tell us what you happens and good luck!
FYI, for whatever it's worth
innos .com claim:
The innos D6000 smartphone officially sold in Europe is quite different compared to the Chinese version available prior to 2016. A few bugs were sorted out, the smartphone has been adapted to the local market, the menu has been completely translated, the software which controls simultaneous operation of two batteries has been revised, not to mention that the smartphone is now generally more reliable.
I think this problem occurs when we keep charging the phone when the internal battery are not discharged or near full. Because the way i see it, N8ofire charging pattern is similar to mine and we both happen to have the same issue.
@edcoolio i might just try your last idea to find a similar battery with the same connector and size.
(2016-03-04, 15:56)861efdee Wrote: [ -> ]I think this problem occurs when we keep charging the phone when the internal battery are not discharged or near full. Because the way i see it, N8ofire charging pattern is similar to mine and we both happen to have the same issue.
Yes I think so.
That 's why I jump to 5.1.1 version (v2.4 abroad).
In this version, external battery is discharged to 50% then internal battery to 50% and then external battery is discharged to 1% then internal battery to 1%.
I think it's better.
So Is there any guys who have a problem with battery with 5.1.1 version ?
(2016-03-04, 15:56)861efdee Wrote: [ -> ]I think this problem occurs when we keep charging the phone when the internal battery are not discharged or near full. Because the way i see it, N8ofire charging pattern is similar to mine and we both happen to have the same issue.
@edcoolio i might just try your last idea to find a similar battery with the same connector and size.
I don't think it has anything to do with this. I'm on 2.7 since it came out. No problems at all. This happens with many phones. Just search "swollen battery". It even happens with Samsung and Sony and all that.
Some batteries are more prone than others... THL W200S had a pretty big problem about this. It really has nothing to do with the battery staying charged, that is mostly an old wive's tale based on some fact, but blown way way way out of proportion.
Yes, if you ****store**** a battery at full... We're talking about for many many weeks or months, and then there might some minor difference in charging capacity between a battery stored at 100% vs 80%.
(2016-03-04, 23:41)MegaManX Wrote: [ -> ] (2016-03-04, 15:56)861efdee Wrote: [ -> ]I think this problem occurs when we keep charging the phone when the internal battery are not discharged or near full. Because the way i see it, N8ofire charging pattern is similar to mine and we both happen to have the same issue.
@edcoolio i might just try your last idea to find a similar battery with the same connector and size.
I don't think it has anything to do with this. I'm on 2.7 since it came out. No problems at all. This happens with many phones. Just search "swollen battery". It even happens with Samsung and Sony and all that.
Some batteries are more prone than others... THL W200S had a pretty big problem about this. It really has nothing to do with the battery staying charged, that is mostly an old wive's tale based on some fact, but blown way way way out of proportion.
Yes, if you ****store**** a battery at full... We're talking about for many many weeks or months, and then there might some minor difference in charging capacity between a battery stored at 100% vs 80%.
It definitely happens to a wide range of batteries, no doubt about it. Bloated batteries always lose capacity...
That being said, the battery (along with the charging circuit and software to control the thermal envelope) should perform as intended. Bulging batteries, if used and charged regularly, will eventually cause an internal short. This is bad.
Basically, the problem is overcharging which leads to heat. This can usually be pinned down to a bad battery, bad charging hardware, bad charging software (for given hardware), or a combination.
It is entirely possible that you can replace the battery but the software and/or hardware causes the exact same issue. Just be mentally prepared for this if you perform surgery and it happens again!!
I'm really very interested in how this turns out. I recently gave Best Buy a bulging S3 battery to get rid of for me, so this is timely. Thanks for the updates.
Today I noticed that the swelling is reduced. I really need to press and collect the air to one spot to notice the bulge. Still unable to fully close the plastic cover though. Shall wait for a few more days and see what happens
(2016-03-09, 11:18)861efdee Wrote: [ -> ]Today I noticed that the swelling is reduced. I really need to press and collect the air to one spot to notice the bulge. Still unable to fully close the plastic cover though. Shall wait for a few more days and see what happens
Glad to hear it, my wife's battery is Huge, I am getting scared it will blow up. It already popped the screen out on one side.