(2014-08-31, 04:01)rgnr Wrote: [ -> ]Lol, somehow I think, our battery's real capacity is not 1830mah. not even 1500. I've bought a all charger with LCD display that shows mah an put a battery in it. Took 'bout 10-12 hours to fill the cells. LCD showed 1190mah. So I put the battery to the phone, and it showed the batt is full 90%. Thus... doing some math... 1190/9*10 is... 'bout 1320mah! I doubt the charger lies, as previously I charged Jiayu 3000mah battery to 2900mah (couln't wait any longer).
You cannot measure mAh's. This charger can tell you probably how much power gave to the battery but this also it is very difficult to be accomplished, so it will not be accurate.
Also your battery was not totally empty. Even if your phone was switched off there is still power in your battery. Off course you cannot discharge the battery more, cause Lithium batteries have limits at the discharge. If you discharge them below the 3,2 (depending the battery) you will destroy them.
So, due to all these you CANNOT measure the mAh's at a battery.
(2014-09-01, 15:13)nikstar Wrote: [ -> ] (2014-08-31, 04:01)rgnr Wrote: [ -> ]Lol, somehow I think, our battery's real capacity is not 1830mah. not even 1500. I've bought a all charger with LCD display that shows mah an put a battery in it. Took 'bout 10-12 hours to fill the cells. LCD showed 1190mah. So I put the battery to the phone, and it showed the batt is full 90%. Thus... doing some math... 1190/9*10 is... 'bout 1320mah! I doubt the charger lies, as previously I charged Jiayu 3000mah battery to 2900mah (couln't wait any longer).
You cannot measure mAh's. This charger can tell you probably how much power gave to the battery but this also it is very difficult to be accomplished, so it will not be accurate.
Also your battery was not totally empty. Even if your phone was switched off there is still power in your battery. Off course you cannot discharge the battery more, cause Lithium batteries have limits at the discharge. If you discharge them below the 3,2 (depending the battery) you will destroy them.
So, due to all these you CANNOT measure the mAh's at a battery.
I have discharged the batt till the phone switched off by itself. So even 7% to the result won't make it 1830mah.
But hey, maybe the charger needs some charges to sorta calibrate itself. The charging voltage starts at 3.9v and never reaches any higher than 4.2v.
As I told you before still there is power inside the battery. How do you know how many mah's it is? Or this 7% you said?
If you start the charge of the (0) then you should have different readings.
Also you should know that all the lithium batteries reducing their capacity, depending of the charging cycles. This means that you will get lower readings than a new battery.
You should also know that all the batteries are not the same. And off course, all the chargers are not the same. The inew v3 battery is rated at 4,35v and if your charger is 4,2v it will NEVER go higher than 4,2 volts.
That was the problem of the inew v3. It could not charge the battery at the 4,35v and this reduced the total power of the (small) battery.
That's why the THL battery was last so long. Not only the 6% that it is bigger. The thl battery was rated as 4,2v and the inew could charge it to maximum. If you read the feedbacks of people who installed the THL V8 battery, they said of about a total 20% increment of the power.
Now with the kitkat this is changed. The phone can charge the battery up to its limit (4,35) and with the combination of kitkat's better power management make the improvement a huge one.
But if you have a THL battery on your phone and you have update to kitkat, there is a danger of damage of your phone. Your battery for SURE it will die after a few cycles but a possible distortion or explosion of the overcharged battery it will kill your phone.
(2014-09-01, 16:48)nikstar Wrote: [ -> ]As I told you before still there is power inside the battery. How do you know how many mah's it is? Or this 7% you said?
If you start the charge of the (0) then you should have different readings.
Also you should know that all the lithium batteries reducing their capacity, depending of the charging cycles. This means that you will get lower readings than a new battery.
You should also know that all the batteries are not the same. And off course, all the chargers are not the same. The inew v3 battery is rated at 4,35v and if your charger is 4,2v it will NEVER go higher than 4,2 volts.
That was the problem of the inew v3. It could not charge the battery at the 4,35v and this reduced the total power of the (small) battery.
That's why the THL battery was last so long. Not only the 6% that it is bigger. The thl battery was rated as 4,2v and the inew could charge it to maximum. If you read the feedbacks of people who installed the THL V8 battery, they said of about a total 20% increment of the power.
Now with the kitkat this is changed. The phone can charge the battery up to its limit (4,35) and with the combination of kitkat's better power management make the improvement a huge one.
But if you have a THL battery on your phone and you have update to kitkat, there is a danger of damage of your phone. Your battery for SURE it will die after a few cycles but a possible distortion or explosion of the overcharged battery it will kill your phone.
Thus I said, that although the phone switches off on 0%, but in fact there is still 'bout 7% left. And I also said, that after the charger i had 10% left to complete the charge ith the phone. But even extra 17% do not make it.
No we are not saying the same.
The phone is programmed to switched off itself when the battery reaches to a specific level in order to protect it.
Even if it shows to you 1% ( when you start to charge it) the battery has a lot of power more. Try to understand this.
Also DON'T count what % says on the phone and DON'T translate this % to battery capacity or measurement level.
Then you said that there is some 10% left to complete the charge. What does this mean?
Nothing!
Only specific tools can show if your battery is charged or not. You can use an app that measures the voltage of the battery to get an idea if is charged.
Also, is your charger compatible with your battery. Did you check this?
So you cannot put all these in the same bag and calculate 10+7=17, so my battery is 1/6 less.
I said enough on this. If you want to understand what I am saying ok, if you don't want, then your battery is 1000mah!
(2014-08-30, 16:31)nikstar Wrote: [ -> ]THIS IS FOR EVERYONE WHO HAVE INSTALL THE THL BATTERY>
It looks like the KitKat Update fixes the charge problem on the iNew V3 and now it charges the battery up to 4.35v which is beyond the limit of the THL battery (4,2v) and there is danger to destroy the battery and maybe the phone too.
So everyone who update to KitKat and have the THL battery, must check the battery volts when is 100% charged with an app and if it goes over 4,2v, to swap back to the original battery.
Hi there, because I see my battery decreasing by the minute just when i do some browsing I was thinking about trying the THL W8 Battery mod. But after reading this message above I have my doubts that this will be a good idea, because I am running on build 1.0.13 with Android Kitkat 4.4.2.
Does someone have experience with the THL W8 battery in combination with this build and Android version?
Besides that, I am testing a couple of battery saver apps. I use Greenify to auto-hibernate some apps and DU Battery Saver to optimize my battery drainage. Do you guys think this is useful? If so, what do you prefer to use: DU Battery Saver or Battery Doctor?
Thanks again for your input.
KitKat haw a very good battery management and my opinion is to remove ANY battery saving apps cause they creating more problems than they solve. Eventually you will end up to spend more battery juice than before.
Clean up your ram once in a while and you will be ok. Also you can switch off data connection or 3G when you don't using it.
Also you can switch to ART mode for a little bit more battery saving.
(2014-10-01, 15:10)nikstar Wrote: [ -> ]KitKat haw a very good battery management and my opinion is to remove ANY battery saving apps cause they creating more problems than they solve. Eventually you will end up to spend more battery juice than before.
Clean up your ram once in a while and you will be ok. Also you can switch off data connection or 3G when you don't using it.
Also you can switch to ART mode for a little bit more battery saving.
Thanks for the info. I was already on ART. First I removed all tooling regarding battery saving and there was a clear improvement. But today I have installed Greenify again and selected a couple apps for hibernation. And at this moment after 15h on battery I still have 47% juice left! At this moment I am more than satisfied with this phone!
Some apps like viber or Facebook messenger drying your battery very fast. They need a lot of power to stay on-line all the time (like another phone connection). If these type of apps you chose for hibernation explains the increment of your battery's juice!
Hi, Right now they selling a NEW BATTERY for Inew v3, 1850 mAh, 20 mAh increase??